{"id":18974,"date":"2021-01-13T11:24:09","date_gmt":"2021-01-13T17:24:09","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/?p=18974"},"modified":"2024-08-22T22:09:39","modified_gmt":"2024-08-23T03:09:39","slug":"unds-martin-luther-king-jr-mystery","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/2021\/01\/unds-martin-luther-king-jr-mystery\/","title":{"rendered":"UND\u2019s Martin Luther King Jr. mystery"},"content":{"rendered":"<h4>In 1959, King spoke via telephone to a faculty and student committee at UND. Want to learn more? So do we, and perhaps you can help<\/h4>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18978\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18978\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"size-full wp-image-18978\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web.jpg 800w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web-300x178.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web-768x456.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web-600x356.jpg 600w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/mlk-dick-demarsico-web-200x118.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18978\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Martin Luther King Jr., 1964. Public-domain image forms part of New York World-Telegram and the Sun Newspaper Photograph Collection, Library of Congress.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Here\u2019s what we know:<\/p>\n<p>On Oct. 18, 1959, Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. conducted a telephone interview with a committee of students and faculty from the United Campus Christian Fellowship at UND.<\/p>\n<p>Here\u2019s what we don\u2019t know:<\/p>\n<p>Almost everything else.<\/p>\n<p>What were the circumstances of the interview? Who was present, and what was said? What kinds of questions did the UND faculty and students have, and what thoughts were on King\u2019s mind at the time?<\/p>\n<p>To the best of our knowledge, the interview on Oct. 18, 1959 was the only direct contact between Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. and UND. That makes it an event of tremendous historical significance for the University, said Curt Hanson, head of Special Collections for the Chester Fritz Library: \u201cThis is a big deal,\u201d Hanson said.<\/p>\n<p>\u201cWe have a number of alumni who knew or interviewed King, such as Era Bell Thompson, an editor at Ebony magazine. We know that many students, faculty and alumni took part in the civil-rights events that King helped organize, such as the March on Washington in 1963.\u201d<\/p>\n<p>But while King visited Minnesota several times, there are no reports of his visiting North Dakota, let alone Grand Forks. So, any direct contact \u2013 even by telephone \u2013 that he would have had with UND during his lifetime would be significant, Hanson said.<\/p>\n<p>With that in mind, <em>UND Today<\/em> and the Department of Special Collections at the Chester Fritz have been engaged in a treasure hunt for the past few weeks, trying to learn more about this historic event. We have inquiries out to King archives around the country, which we\u2019ll describe below. We\u2019re checking to see if any alumni who took part in the interview still recall it and might describe what happened.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18980\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18980\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-18980 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web.jpg 800w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web-300x178.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web-768x456.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web-600x356.jpg 600w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0071-web-200x118.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18980\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Dacotah yearbooks, UND directories and back issues of the Dakota Student were among the records examined in the UND Archives at the Chester Fritz Library seeking clues regarding a 1959 interview on campus, via telephone, with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Photo by Mike Hess\/UND Today.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>Today, we\u2019re putting the question out to the UND community as well. Readers? Do you have any information about the interview that you could share, such as a grandparent\u2019s story of \u201cThe day I talked to Martin Luther King Jr.,\u201d or a letter or diary entry that has been passed down?<\/p>\n<p>Or even, were you (or perhaps your spouse) there?<\/p>\n<p>In weeks to come, <em>UND Today<\/em> will share any further information we recover, including archival records and readers\u2019 reminiscences. We\u2019ll also add the info to the Department of Special Collections\u2019 now-growing historical record of the event.<\/p>\n<p>Meanwhile, here are the clues that we\u2019ve uncovered so far, as we set out with the University community to solve UND\u2019s Martin Luther King Jr. Mystery.<\/p>\n<h4 style=\"text-align: left\" align=\"center\">The date: October 18, 1959<\/h4>\n<p>This story begins back in December, when a <em>UND Today<\/em> editor simply Googled the terms \u201cMartin Luther King Jr.\u201d and \u201cUniversity of North Dakota.\u201d Martin Luther King Jr. Day was approaching, the editor knew. So, was there a previously unreported connection between King and UND that could be highlighted for a story?<\/p>\n<p>Indeed there was, according to the Martin Luther King Jr. Research and Education Institute at Stanford University. The Institute\u2019s\u00a0<a href=\"https:\/\/kinginstitute.stanford.edu\/encyclopedia\/king-conducts-telephone-interview-university-north-dakota-faculty-and-students\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\">King Encyclopedia entry for Oct. 18, 1959<\/a>, reads as follows:<\/p>\n<p><strong>\u201cKing conducts telephone interview with University of North Dakota faculty and students<\/strong><\/p>\n<p><i>\u201cKing conducts a telephone interview with a committee of students and faculty from the United Campus Christian Fellowship at the University of North Dakota.\u201d<\/i><\/p>\n<p>A little more Googling brought up the MLK Jr. Archive at Boston University\u2019s Gotlieb Archival Research Center, where\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/dbin\/mlkjr\/collection\/detail.php?id=83378&amp;height=400&amp;width=600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\">this record<\/a>\u00a0can be found:<\/p>\n<p><em>Program: Undergraduate Fellowship Forums, United Campus Christian Fellowship, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, N.D.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>Box 119, Folder 3<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>General Physical Description note\u00a0&#8211; Combination printed and mimeograph pamphlet, 4p.<\/em><\/p>\n<p><em>General note\u00a0&#8211; Participated in phone interview at Corwin Hall, University of North Dakota, Grand Forks, N.D. Program includes photographs of three Grand Forks churches and information about their worship services. The sponsoring group, United Campus Christian Fellowship, is only identified as UCCF in the program. See Letter to Martin Luther King, Jr., 10\/27\/1959 from Spilman, Kenneth E.<\/em><\/p>\n<p>By our reading, the record refers to a four-page program that was printed to call attention to the interview. The Chester Fritz Library has asked the Boston University Archives for a copy of this program, and is expecting to hear back soon.<\/p>\n<p>Note the record\u2019s suggestion, \u201cSee Letter to Martin Luther King, Jr., 10\/27\/1959 from Spilman, Kenneth E.\u201d\u00a0<a href=\"http:\/\/okra.stanford.edu\/en\/list?q=spilman&amp;p=1&amp;ps=20\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\">Here\u2019s the link<\/a>\u00a0to Stanford\u2019s record of that letter, which we\u2019re guessing is a thank-you from Kenneth Spilman to King. (The letter\u2019s original is at BU, from where Chester Fritz Library also has asked for a copy.)<\/p>\n<p><a href=\"http:\/\/www.bu.edu\/dbin\/mlkjr\/collection\/detail.php?id=65374&amp;height=400&amp;width=600\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener noreferrer\" data-auth=\"NotApplicable\">Here\u2019s the link<\/a>\u00a0to an earlier letter in the BU Archive. This one\u2019s dated Oct. 5, 1959, and as it was sent to Kenneth Spilman (the author of the presumed thank-you letter above), we suspect it was sent to finalize arrangements for the interview.<\/p>\n<p>Speaking of Kenneth Spilman, he\u2019s listed in the UND Campus Directory for 1959-60 as the United Campus Christian Fellowship Pastor. The Dacotah yearbooks of the 1958-59 and 1959-60 academic years also list the UCCF, and include the names of some student leaders. <em>UND Today<\/em> is now in the process of contacting those alums, most of whom, we&#8217;re guessing, would now be in their 80s.<\/p>\n<p>And that\u2019s about it, as far as online records and the UND Archives at the Chester Fritz Library are concerned. There\u2019s no mention of the King interview in the Dakota Student newspaper of the time, for example. Nor was there any announcement or report in the Grand Forks Herald, according to a check of microfilm records of the Herald for the days before and after the event.<\/p>\n<figure id=\"attachment_18979\" aria-describedby=\"caption-attachment-18979\" class=\"wp-caption aligncenter\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" class=\"wp-image-18979 size-full\" src=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web.jpg\" alt=\"\" width=\"800\" height=\"475\" srcset=\"https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web.jpg 800w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web-300x178.jpg 300w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web-768x456.jpg 768w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web-600x356.jpg 600w, https:\/\/blogs.und.edu\/und-today\/wp-content\/uploads\/sites\/7\/2021\/01\/210106-mlk-uccf-0039-web-200x118.jpg 200w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 800px) 100vw, 800px\" \/><figcaption id=\"caption-attachment-18979\" class=\"wp-caption-text\">Despite searching through the Grand Forks Herald&#8217;s microfilmed issues\u00a0\u2013 which are available in the Chester Fritz Library\u00a0\u2013 for the days immediately before and after the Oct. 18, 1959 interview, no reports about the event could be found. Photo by Mike Hess\/UND Today.<\/figcaption><\/figure>\n<p>King\u2019s global fame today makes this silence hard to believe. But the world was a different place in 1959, and Martin Luther King Jr.\u2019s reputation was different, too. In 1959, King was known mostly for his role in the successful bus boycott in Montgomery, Ala., which had taken place in 1955-56. But his &#8220;I Have a Dream&#8221; speech in Washington still was years away, as was the 1960s-era escalation of America\u2019s Civil Rights movement into an unstoppable moral, social and political force.<\/p>\n<p>So, perhaps it\u2019s not surprising that on Oct. 18, 1959, the Grand Forks Herald did not mention that day\u2019s upcoming telephone interview on campus with the Rev. Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Instead, the paper\u2019s banner headline on Page 1 called attention to a different UND-related event: the University\u2019s football victory over the NDSU Bison the day before, \u201cSioux Gain Upset Win 20-15.\u201d<\/p>\n<p><i>Readers, if you have any information about the interview that you\u2019d like to pass on, please contact <a href=\"https:\/\/und.edu\/directory\/tom.dennis\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Tom Dennis<\/a> at UND Today or <a href=\"https:\/\/und.edu\/directory\/curtis.hanson\" target=\"_blank\" rel=\"noopener\">Curt Hanson<\/a> at the Chester Fritz Library.\u00a0 Thank you, and we\u2019re looking forward to sharing whatever we learn!<\/i><\/p>\n","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>In 1959, King spoke via telephone to a faculty and student committee at UND. Want to learn more? 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